If that’s the case (but certainly not saying my choices aren’t good for women), and you just want to see a different gear junkies “picks”, check out The Girl’s 2018 Gear Guide too. Your email address will not be published. Frankly, it was spot-on, and so I wasn’t about to dork with it again. Very good build quality although the bolts to replace the belt were a night mare to remove. This will get you started on reaching your goals, and also give you a … As usual, it comes with a front wheel block. In the fit file later on I got a constant speed. 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However, there’s one thing that bothers me. The test includes ramps of 30s duration and some intervals as a warm up. I have check that all spacers are there and nothing missing. Increase Moment of Inertia 26%. Another problem is that there seems to be a lot of tension, getting the flywheel to start moving requires a lot of effort. I've never had anything to complain about, First Direct Drive from Welshlady Sue September 8, 2020 After years using a Tacx wheel-on trainer, we switched to the Elite Direto. The same problem also manifests itself during training sessions with ERG mode, again not a problem if you need to maintain a powerlevel for a longer amount of time, but sometimes you have these very short burst of power blocks, then it struggles. Interesting but aren’t you essentially riding long hours with your saddle nose up if you use a tall riser? At one point, it must have gone up to near max resistance without any indication it would, as it felt like the chain would break before the cranks would turn. This community-driven site is maintained by Eric Schlange and a team of Zwift enthusiasts. Hi, got the same problem on Zwift for the calibration of the trainer. Difference is mostly made up from the 0's on the pedals (accurate) not being reflected on the trainer quickly enough. I’ve used with computer - phone and Apple TV. I have one which seems to work really well for me, has kept me sane through lockdown and done 4000k on Zwift in that time, but too much overlap with Suito? Slower to respond to power changes in ERG mode and to short slopes in Zwift The power/accuracy is there, and my Drivo2 has huge range so I don’t have to change gears in ERG mode. Worth a consideration, and the hack trick to try is some extra thick foam padding (excercise mats, firm foam sponges, etc) under the support feet of the trainer, to allow some leaning motion. I only have two minor gripes with it, the first being the cadence can spike massively once you get over about 90. Accurate power Realistic inertiaWell-built Budget-friendly. It is however consistent with itself. 1 snapped belt the only problem during this time. In any case, the trainer will communicate with any software, Zwift included I had no issues with overwhelming the trainer ever. Regarding your cassette, the derailleur will be somehow misaligned while using the standard cassette on the Direto XR. But most of this all boils down to two core methods: ERG Mode: Setting a specific power level – i.e., 220w. I used the small chainring in front and the new 073 firmware. I have very sensitive neighbors but I only had wheel-on trainers in the past so I don’t have a good noise reference. I also hear some weird sounds but at this point I don’t know if they’re from the shifting, from some other problem, or if it’s to be expected…. I am a 65kg male with an FTP of around 200, and a sprint of around 800 watts. Easy setup Accurate power Realistic inertiaWell-built Portable/storable. Typically one uses the small ring in front and one of the bigger ones of the cassette. I cover it within my video at the top of the page. Rides well, not too bad on the noise front. The main reason why I purchased it besides the cost of being below $800 was the capability of switching out the cassette hubs from Shimano to Campagnola since I own bikes with these systems. So what about actual power accuracy then? I’ve never ridden it up the Radio Tower and ADZ climbs, but the Direto simulates the Epic KOM, the Innsbruck climbs, and all the Zwift sprints as well as the Neo. Elite service is brilliant, Impressive direct-drive trainer from chaeks September 9, 2020 Very simple to setup, well-priced, superb after-sales service from Elite. I have Quarq DZero PM on my bike and readings are identical, both in values and in shape in time. And yes, the power is very accurate, following exactly what the Quarq DZero reports, with the same responsiveness. Peter. Maybe I somehow downloaded an old version from the app store and it was updated? ANT+ however works like a charm, no problems there. it is a small problem that in a few case i hear from the costumers. That said, it’s a bit of a spec battle for the sake of battling. And lastly, if you felt this review was useful – I always appreciate feedback in the comments below. For me, in my testing, I used Zwift and TrainerRoad as my two main apps (which are the two main apps I use personally). No direct drive trainer is cheap, but relative to other DD smart trainers, I really think you get the bang for your buck. I suppose you did not open the unit up to compare but just in case… Any chance this XR may be less prone to belt breakage problems? Initial power readings too high, but after replacing the drive belt this is now correct. (Did try with bluetooth but didn't work well with Zwift in this set up). It still seems to ramp up the resistance pretty suddenly and extremely. – By having an endless cassette, then it makes it easier to go up that hill because most people can spin more efficiently at 90RPM then 50RPM when the hills get really steep – that article explain exactly that. I normally run 100% but, in a fit of insanity, Sunday I rode Alpe Du Zwift. It is clear though that there’s improvements around the firmware, beyond just hardware. According to Elite “the biggest difference is represented by the presence of the integrated OTS power meter inside the Direto XR.” does this mean that with Suito there is no power meter readings in e.g. Home trainers Gardez une longueur d’avance en basse saison et par mauvais temps avec la gamme de home trainer de Wiggle. Ipad, iphone, pc? Caractéristiques du produit Home trainer ELITE Direto XR Le DIRETO XR a été conçu pour intégrer à notre catalogue des home trainers pour vélo interactifs, un modèle encore plus précis dun produit qui, à lorigine, se positionnait déjà comme étant lun des rouleaux les … Canyon Bike Setup #2: Garmin Vector 3 Dual-sided pedals, Quarq DZero crankset Regards, The Direto (probably all Elite trainers) show you power as you put it down so it looks a little spikey, whereas other brands artificially smooth the power readings, I've grown to like the 'actual power' readings which show a true representation of your ride (just like a real power meter outdoors). I tried to register with the Elite forum days ago to comment but it requires approval and they seem to not be approving. Does it support multiple simultaneous connections to stream data to different devices, as the Kickr does? And presumably the Zumo is long dead. We offer you a free complimentary session with no obligations. The Wahoo representative in my region is nearly dead, they have a horrible website with nothing for sale and never respond to any email, so I hope I have a better experience with Elite. So there’s still a difference but it has reduced considerably. The cadence sensor it’self is cheap and would be great if they didn’t charge so much for postage. Only the front derailleur will work marginally worse. Probably CORE, unless you want the higher gradient allowance, or don’t want to deal with a cassette/cost of that. Which, in turn gets us to the quick overall specs: – Dual ANT+/Bluetooth Smart support, including FE-C and FTMS, plus power/speed/cadence broadcasting It does not work for everyone, because some still prefer flat setups, but it is worth a simple test, especially if you are experiencing issues with your bike inside (that is comfortable outside). Easy to set up and fold away, easy to connect (quite instantaneously), smooth running, quite realistic in terms of feel and accurate power numbers. As software for the fit file I used garmin connect. I opened a ticket with Elite. It seems like that should be incorporated in the algorithm to have about 5 seconds to get the flywheel going and get up to speed, no? I used IOS and iPadOS which worked perfectly. I wouldn’t worry about the noise. On the other hand, you need to get a cassette with a direct-drive (although there are models on the maket like the Direto XR that come with a preassembled 11spd cassette). But again its minor and really only poses an issue for things like 10 second intervals. I am a 65kg male with an FTP of around 200, and a sprint of around 800 watts. Do u have the latest update on your trainer (Can be checked with the app elite upgrado)? I've been happy with mine. I figure 8.5% avg…i can do that (I am closer to 59 than 58, run 225-230 lbs, and have the VO2 max of a piece of granite…asthma). This was a crit race on the new Zwift Paris course, and so you can see the constant ups and downs of it. Easy to use and setup along with the price being reasonable from Marty September 9, 2020 I purchase this trainer going on 2 years and coming from a wheel on trainer this was night and day. Hey Ivo. Looking forward to any development about en eventual firmware update for older Diretos! - Reliable - if you do have an issue, even now, years after release, Elite will help you to fix it 10,000+ miles and still providing quality watt readings and resistance. I spoke a lot with Elite support, they provided me some guidance and extra firmware settings to speed it up, down to 8 seconds. I've kept it, so it must be okay, but: Also included is a 30-day trial on Zwift, and the manual you won’t read: There’s a power cord, which measures 2.5 meters: Atop that there’s the front wheel block, which helps keep your front wheel straight, as well as makes the rest of the bike even in height. Mostly I change to level mode for a few seconds before going into ERG mode again when I’m around the desired wattage. Next off was the belt snapping as I entered a sprint (not massive power but good enough haha). In terms of portability, I brought it along on many holidays and have not experienced any issues. However, you get a very good trainer for a great price. Some very straight forward set up and all calibrated for my new found passion for zone based training. The full rundown on the Elite Direto Smart Trainer that'll be hitting stores very soon. Zwift does artificial speed calculations. I bought it and the Smart Steering device. Thanks for reading! The one complaint I have is the lenght of the cord. Here’s basically what you’re looking for: link to amzn.to. Do u have the latest update on phone and MyEtraining app? Here’s my results: link to dcrainmaker.com, Ray, thank you for your reply. I’m torn between the XR, Saris H3, and Kickr Core as my first smart trainer. This is the first turbo trainer I've ever used. Overall this trainer is quite good. If this would be true ERG mode should be impossible to use and looking at your review it is not what u have experienced. If you wish to record your trainer’s data on your Garmin while you’re on Zwift, you need to set up your trainer as speed&cadence sensor and as power sensor on your Garmin. Of course, it’s not the same feel as you’d see with a KICKR or Tacx NEO or Saris H3, but those are all more expensive trainers. - Very accurate power DC Rainmaker & others have written well about this, so do some searching. I’ve used with computer - phone and Apple TV. Use Backcountry.com or Competitive Cyclist with either the coupon code DCRAINMAKER for first time users saving 15% on applicable products. I’ll ask, but I suspect not. So ERG mode is key. Some short rides and riders can get away with no motion. Hard for me to believe that thou. A 1000 foot climb is still a 1000 foot climb. Also, if this wasn’t the case, then Zwift wouldn’t already be discussing setting this to 100% for certain races. And to compliment that, here’s The Girl’s (my wife’s) list. I say its minor as most people who would pay this kind of money for a trainer most likely already had some kind of cadence sensor on their bike. The Tuo still (a year later), isn’t shipping yet. My trainer generally treats me well. Try through the MyETraining app on your phone. Had a friend compare accuracy to his assioma pedals and it was right on. Despite the lower price the trainer provides great power accuracy, ride feel and durability (I've used every single day on average for two years), I've done almost 30,000km on the Direto, using it happily across all the online training platforms but mainly zwift. There is some room for improvement in the speed of changes in resistance in ERG mode, but on a normal sim ride in Zwift it's perfect. The 11spd cassette won’t work with 10 speed chain, it is too thick. The logical place to start, turbo trainers can be set up in your own home. With Winter coming and Covid not going away any time soon, get youself a decent direct drive smart trainer NOW, you won't regret it..! And as always, feel free to post comments or questions in the comments section below, I’ll be happy to try and answer them as quickly as possible. It’s pretty disappointing so far. Just not the best in ERG mode for short sprints. The price was an immediate selling point given the specs, appearance (sturdy yet attractive) and what others had said when using it themselves. But be mindful of the scale of this particular graph here. Most of the time. Meaning, I suspect this is an algorithm based error rather than interruption based dropout, because I was recording on multiple devices and the power never dropped out (part of the same channel), on any devices. Even the 11s MTB Shimano cassettes are actually set to fit on the 10s Shimano spacing. It reacts quickly when the road starts to climb and vice versa, and to speed changes. I plan on setting up my trainer in the cellar which gets cold in winter so I’m guessing that’s a definite “no” to a Wahoo! In many European countries when they say ‘Race’ they mean ‘Road Bikes’ (because, logically, most other bikes go on the road like commuter bikes). The number is an alphanumeric code with 3 letters and 6 numbers. No worries, not a normal person problem. C) Plug it in. I’m curious what’s the better option for the rider who is not racing, rides mostly for pleasure, but in bunch rides likes to push himself to the limits. Dans ce carton nous retrouvons, le Direto, ses 3 pieds stabilisateurs (à monter), un blocage rapide (5×130/135) avec des adaptateurs pour les axes en 12×142mm. Bang for buck trainer – still going strong after almost 3 years and 13,000+ km on Zwift from WKG Go-Go Juice Berserker September 28, 2020 Grabbed one of the first Direto's on the Dutch market in December 2017. Still, much of the road-like feel is driven by the flywheel, and be it physical or virtual, flywheel sizes tend to be measured in weight.

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